hi
im tryin to make some really nice but serious liquid melodies, but im not sure where to start. how do i come up with this "intelligent" sound?
cheers
b
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jazz samples - think lush sounds - rhodes piano, tenor sax, warm pads - more 'jazz' harmony - try writing chords in the 5-1-3 formation (going up) rather than straight 1-3-5, use 'pretty' notes
Originally posted by thejazz
jazz samples - think lush sounds - rhodes piano, tenor sax, warm pads - more 'jazz' harmony - try writing chords in the 5-1-3 formation (going up) rather than straight 1-3-5, use 'pretty' notes
unless i'm wrong.
That's one way, depends on what sound you want. There are another more soul influenced sound that for example london electricity and high contrast are into.
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da rollaz, da steppaz da true playaz
Use interesting chords, compound chords are awesome, so things like b5b7, b13ths, and minor 9s are sick
and then use interesting chord progressions as well!
by doing this you'll be able to come up with intriguing "intelligent" melodies and stick out from the regular liquid tunes
now if only I wrote liquid
thejazz – cheers mate thanks 4 the help. could u please explain 5-1-3. I have very little knowledge about music theory. and wat are pretty notes? any examples?
Abnormalbrain – thank u too mate. LE & high contrast are good examples of the style that im tryin to create. also, do u know wat notes/chords are used in soul?
boot – thanks also for the help. im not sure wat b5b7, b13ths and minor 9s are. could u tell me the notes used in them? cheers
yep
b5b7 have exactly that, a flattened fifth and a flattened seventh
so for example, in C, the chord would comprise of C-E-Gb-A(or technically, B double flat)
13 (don't worry about flattening the 13) - C-E-G-Bb-F (although you don't need to include the G, as this is implied)
b9 - C-E-G-Bb-Db (once again, the G isn't necessary)
Originally posted by benji b
Abnormalbrain – thank u too mate. LE & high contrast are good examples of the style that im tryin to create. also, do u know wat notes/chords are used in soul?
I think what peaple are trying to say is that the chords in liquid are very nice, not ugly like.. hmmm.. whatever. In soul they use minor7, and major7, minor9 is nice to... But if you listen to high contrast for example he samples much, in some of the tunes he might have sampled the chords and not come up with them by himself. I think you should sample soul music and add bass and drums and make melodys over. You can ofcourse come up with chords to, try different notes and put together them to chords. Also one tip might be to find what chords there are in soultunes you like, I'm shure you can find them on the net.
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Yup, i use a lot of minor7ths minor9ths and major7ths. Also add 4ths or 2nds to standard major chords. If your a bit unsure about creating your own chord prgoressions an easy way is to find some nice pre-sampled chords/ progressions and have a fiddle yourself.
sorry, i wasn't being very clear - yeah, 5-1-3 COULD refer to a chord sequence, but what i actually meant was use chords in their inversions for a more floaty, less grounded feeling.
ie. a C major triad (C-E-G) uses the 1st, 3rd and 5th notes of C major.
but you can flip the notes so the E is on the bottom (E-G-C)
sorry, i wasn't being very clear - yeah, 5-1-3 COULD refer to a chord sequence, but what i actually meant was use chords in their inversions for a more floaty, less grounded feeling.
ie. a C major triad (C-E-G) uses the 1st, 3rd and 5th notes of C major.
but you can flip the notes so the E is on the bottom (E-G-C)
or so the G is (G-C-E)
so, E-G-C is C major triad in its 1st invesion
G-C-E is C major trian in its 2nd inversion
What I do is first a make a loop of chords. After that I move the notes in octaves so that it sounds nice, and often so that the chords is at the same place of the keyboard. That gives a tight sound. In wich order the notes are does not matter if the bass plays the keynote.
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da rollaz, da steppaz da true playaz
sorry, i wasn't being very clear - yeah, 5-1-3 COULD refer to a chord sequence, but what i actually meant was use chords in their inversions for a more floaty, less grounded feeling.
ie. a C major triad (C-E-G) uses the 1st, 3rd and 5th notes of C major.
but you can flip the notes so the E is on the bottom (E-G-C)
or so the G is (G-C-E)
so, E-G-C is C major triad in its 1st invesion
G-C-E is C major trian in its 2nd inversion
What I do is first a make a loop of chords. After that I move the notes in octaves so that it sounds nice, and often so that the chords is at the same place of the keyboard. That gives a tight sound. In wich order the notes are does not matter if the bass plays the keynote.
so do u mean move 1 or 2 notes a whole octave?
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