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Hi,
Ive a serious dilemma here. Im using fruityloops for about half a year now. And im starting to doubt if it is a good sequencer for producing drumnbass. I hear the pros use cubase logic ...
But never any word about fruityloops. So Im willing to start with cubase or so. So before i ll do that i would like to get some reactions about other users of FL. Why isnt it used by those well known producers.
Some reactions maybe, why should I choose for cubase or why not or for any other program.
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20-01-2007 19:33 |
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optikal_assassin
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hasn't this question been asked like a half a million times now, just in different ways? im not sure why the big shots don't use FL. maybe some of them do, but won't admit it. Like they're too good to admit they do, who knows. I've used FL for everyone of my tracks since the first day i've produced, and i see no other reason to stop using it. but im not a pro, so maybe thats why. ive never looked into cubase or logic so i can't give you any info on why they would trump FL in production. sorry i cant be of more help, maybe the big guys can tho, who use them programs. 
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20-01-2007 19:53 |
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Muad'Dib
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Everything is inside your head.
The real sequencer is there, not on your computer. If you sequenced your tune inside your native (in your head) sequencer, it makes no difference what sequencer you use on your computer. The only difference is the easiness of use, and the learning curve, and in FLStudio both these are very very good.
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20-01-2007 19:56 |
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optikal_assassin
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Originally posted by Muad'Dib
Everything is inside your head.
The real sequencer is there, not on your computer. If you sequenced your tune inside your native (in your head) sequencer, it makes no difference what sequencer you use on your computer. The only difference is the easiness of use, and the learning curve, and in FLStudio both these are very very good. |
precisely man, that sums i up for me too. i think the real work goes in your head, and FL is just the tool to transfer your ideas from head to mix.
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20-01-2007 19:58 |
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tryptech
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Jeah youre right I just wanted to know if it was usefull to go on
Jeah thanks dude
Indeed the shit is in your head you need of course also a decent equalizer to get the sound right
cheerz
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20-01-2007 20:19 |
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In my head my tunes sound much better than after putting them into the sequencer... In my head I never have to worry about sample quality, EQing, lyrics, CPU load, ...
Or maybe I'm just a plain tard 
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21-01-2007 11:30 |
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optikal_assassin
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Originally posted by BattleDrone
In my head my tunes sound much better than after putting them into the sequencer... In my head I never have to worry about sample quality, EQing, lyrics, CPU load, ...
Or maybe I'm just a plain tard
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nahh man, my final sequenced tunes are always pretty shit compared to whats in my head too, which really sucks cuz if i could precisely duplicate what i hear in my head, i think id be rolling out tunes every other day which is far from the case, plus they'd be alot better too i think. oh well. 
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21-01-2007 17:23 |
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Originally posted by BattleDrone
Or maybe I'm just a plain tard
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Stole the word our of my mouth
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21-01-2007 21:54 |
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who ueses FLstudio 6?!?!?!!
FLstudio 7 beta is the SHIZZLE NIZZZLE!
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22-01-2007 11:05 |
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Originally posted by Halph-Price
who ueses FLstudio 6?!?!?!!
FLstudio 7 beta is the SHIZZLE NIZZZLE! |
Me, I don't want to mess with betas, that's all.
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22-01-2007 11:13 |
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Originally posted by optikal_assassin
hasn't this question been asked like a half a million times now, just in different ways? im not sure why the big shots don't use FL. maybe some of them do, but won't admit it. Like they're too good to admit they do, who knows. I've used FL for everyone of my tracks since the first day i've produced, and i see no other reason to stop using it. but im not a pro, so maybe thats why. ive never looked into cubase or logic so i can't give you any info on why they would trump FL in production. sorry i cant be of more help, maybe the big guys can tho, who use them programs.
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same here , and im about to stick to the fruit , now that i know every knob of it
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22-01-2007 12:14 |
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Originally posted by Greyone
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Originally posted by optikal_assassin
hasn't this question been asked like a half a million times now, just in different ways? im not sure why the big shots don't use FL. maybe some of them do, but won't admit it. Like they're too good to admit they do, who knows. I've used FL for everyone of my tracks since the first day i've produced, and i see no other reason to stop using it. but im not a pro, so maybe thats why. ive never looked into cubase or logic so i can't give you any info on why they would trump FL in production. sorry i cant be of more help, maybe the big guys can tho, who use them programs.
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same here , and im about to stick to the fruit , now that i know every knob of it
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I think a lot of the "top" producers don't use Fruity because it was not all that great at the start (whereas Reason 1.0 was a jawdropper already, FruityLoops 1.0 was more of a joke really). And Cubase and co have always been strong in the music scene and are the absolute standard for collabs etc...
I guess some studios guys who need to master a project in order to publish it would not be too fond of some kid that pops up with FL and prefers Cubase (atleast that's my experience). So most of those starting kids used to switch to Cubase at some point in time.
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22-01-2007 13:52 |
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Originally posted by BattleDrone
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Originally posted by optikal_assassin
hasn't this question been asked like a half a million times now, just in different ways? im not sure why the big shots don't use FL. maybe some of them do, but won't admit it. Like they're too good to admit they do, who knows. I've used FL for everyone of my tracks since the first day i've produced, and i see no other reason to stop using it. but im not a pro, so maybe thats why. ive never looked into cubase or logic so i can't give you any info on why they would trump FL in production. sorry i cant be of more help, maybe the big guys can tho, who use them programs.
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same here , and im about to stick to the fruit , now that i know every knob of it
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I think a lot of the "top" producers don't use Fruity because it was not all that great at the start (whereas Reason 1.0 was a jawdropper already, FruityLoops 1.0 was more of a joke really). And Cubase and co have always been strong in the music scene and are the absolute standard for collabs etc...
I guess some studios guys who need to master a project in order to publish it would not be too fond of some kid that pops up with FL and prefers Cubase (atleast that's my experience). So most of those starting kids used to switch to Cubase at some point in time. |
and then reggaeton came out and int he biz, that's the onyl spot i have heard FL mentioned. and it was mostly mixing guys having to use it, or transport from it.
so who know's, i have heard of other bands use fl and a digi002 and get a good lo-fi sound and recognition.
whatever works for you.
hell, use a 4 track tape machine, and you tell me if you can get a song like the beatles.
personally i use a lot of vst's and fl is the best for that, because it doesn't varafy them every time yuo start it up and helps optomize for a crappy computer that i use.
reason, i can't seem to use vst's as well in it.
cubase is great, specially if you want to record. it's the logic of PC. which say a lot.
Logic OWNS, just remember that, Pro-tools owns recording.
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24-01-2007 12:21 |
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Each sequencer has it's own high and low points.
FL Studio is good in terms of the fact that it's easy as hell to use but it sucks in the fact that it takes freaking forever to make a song (every function has its own little window, making work nothing more than opening and closing a bunch of windows).
I used FL Studio for a while but I got really tired of the fact that it took me hours to completely rock out toons.
I use Renoise now, which, though took me "freaking forever" to learn (unlike FL), I can complete toons in practically no time.
Reason, on the other hand, allows a crapload of customization and is practically a world of its own but, with extreme customization comes a steep learning curve and the need for the "tweakers brain" (which I only allow myself to have on one night a month).
Ableton-simple, fast, great sound quality, but limited ability for customization and it's more meant for live performances over studio production.
It's all really up to you.
If I had to give one word of recommendation, it'd be to obtain as many sequencers and trackers as possible, learn as much as you can from each, and use each of their special capabilities and avoid their weaknesses (for example, make synthlines on FL Studio, do drumbeats on Renoise (or the tracker of your choosing), save the drumline as a wav and make it an mp3, throw it into Reason and master it, and put the whole thing on Ableton as an mp3 and use Ableton to transition from one song to another like a DJ).
That's my wisdom of the night.
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19-02-2007 10:36 |
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@MaskedPantsMan
I know what you mean about FL, although the program has become pretty mature nowadays, there are some obvious mistakes in some basic functions and workflows. E.g. When you play with the overall pitch, you can't copy it's value and use it on the individual instruments that you want to set to that pitch, it will give you a wrong value. Some knobtweaks have no undo, some others don't show a value when tweaking.
There's no link between the playlist and the stepsequencer, no link from step sequencer straight to the FX channel used on a channel. If you acivate an Effect from the FX pannel and this effect was open, but hidden by stuff displayed on top of it, it will close, leaving a newbie clueless.
And although the browser is well done, I dislike it as I tend to lose the overview really easy.
Nuff said, maybe a lot of this got fixed in version 7, but I haven't tried it yet.
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19-02-2007 11:43 |
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Muad'Dib
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@BattleDrone: Some things in FL are intentionally done in this manner so you can adjust to using keyboard shortcuts and other ways that will, in the end line, speed your workflow.
Like, using F5-F9 keys for the step sequencer, browser, piano roll, etc...
PS Have you checked your mail lately?
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19-02-2007 13:18 |
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Yeah! Always good for a laugh
It was really one lousy bit of sofware back then, but it was fun to play with just like this thingy called "megadrummer" on the C64 back in the days when I was a kid.
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