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Friscko Friscko is a male
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Please check out my new track 'Resurection of Evil (edit)' and post your comments here!!!


Not perfect either, but already one giant heap of improvement imho.
I haven't changed anything structural, just some sample and fx stuff.
The real eq'ing things arent done yet, I only cut out the low's from that intro steamtrain sample and some other small thingies

-Break
I've put the homemade punchy break a lil louder, so the beats have more weight.

-Reese
This one is a combination of the low end of my jx16 reese with the mid and hi from the Rave003 sound (yeah the one from that Surya pack)

-Some other stuff
Boosted the sine at 50Hz (maybe to loud after the 2nd drop?)
Made the hardcore kick more punchy
Added some extra atmosphere ravey samples


This track has been deleted on the producer's request

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This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by Friscko: 04-09-2005 20:14.

04-09-2005 20:03 Homepage of Friscko
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the intro reverb seems a bit extreme on my monitors. i feel as the edits should be closer together and the tune should "jump" back and forth with the amen breaks, vocal sample, basslines rolling, stabbing, etc... the stabbing synth is way too low, the sound is murky, the drums sound the best mastered of the tune. the bass is too heavy after the 2nd drop, it drags too long as well. all the synths need to come up a bit. use the hardcore breaks more in the edits, i think the second half needs to be cut into the edits in the starting body more, splice this track togerther, turn up the levels in the break aways to the cowbell sounds. its all here, just not in the order i would want to put it together. thats just me. nice work though.

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05-09-2005 11:27 Homepage of short-wave
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Sorry that i took so long to review , but i had many things to do ...


Allright:

Wow i see the Eq ing is much much better. Good.
drums R nice n clear , but im still not a big sound of the old skool rave thing. BAss (reece ) in contrast is massive !
Leveling aint't that good , Drums are louders that evrything else.
Chorus Tongue on drums , is it ?
Structure could be better.
Wow 3:30 massive !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Distorted cutter 2
Frisko you've got the skills but you defenatly need a new pc.
08-09-2005 16:55
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Frisco, your tune has has quite much stuff to fix. Regardless of that, do not take my review (I will be complaining about many stuff) as put off, you have idea and potential, it just requires refining.

Production. It is not as pristine as it could be. Try to compare your song to professional musicians tunes in same genre. Do you have more or less bass, low mids, mids, high, and so on? Tune your song to same sound that professionals use. If you do not seem to hear any difference, your monitors are not working properly or your room is causing modes, disturbances in frequency response. Try listening your tune in each and every sound system youre able to hear (allways compare to pro´s tunes!)

Here are my findings:

You have plenty of bass (allmost too much) in your kicks, but it sound too boomy to me. Cut 6-10dB away from 250Hz. use wery small Q, so youre just cutting 215-280Hz, not more.

Bass and kick drum are in same frequency spectrum. They swamp each other, and I cannot hear bassline allmost at all. There are several ways to make sure both are heard, one of the best is to compose in a way that bassline and kick drum are not played at the same time. There are all kind of side chain compressor etc options also existing. If youre using PC with VST support, you could try what Otium FX Basslane does: http://www.otiumfx.com/products.php
Also in DnB bassline does not stay in normal bass frequency spectrum. Get somekind of 303 clone to play higher tone layer to give some mid range to your bassline.

WORK YOUR BEATS! I smell a long sessions of copypaste here!. Your beats are bit boring, work them!

Also there are quite little elements, or something you could call a point of this tune, this is a bit boring 6 minute session.

change/middle eight in 3:30 is very interesting move. Actually after that, your tune works much better. You still do not have too much audible variation in your beats, but now youre using one of those safe and sound beats (Amen? Halleluja? I do not know or careSmile ) that works well even without too much variation. You have some breaks in between, ut those do not teem to have (rhythmically) anything to do with standard halleluja-beat. They just pop up, bang around for 4 bars, and vanish, with no effect into structure of the rest of the song. You could try to use longer breaks that start under Halleluja, gain energy, overwhelm, destroy everything in its path, and while they end, song changes. Atleast for 3 seconds.

Because there are quite much things to fix, I´ll give 5/10.

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09-09-2005 17:16
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You still do not have too much audible variation in your beats, but now youre using one of those safe and sound beats (Amen? Halleluja? I do not know or care )

I just wanted to make an "amen & reese" track.
AND i'm not quite able to get every detial right becus of my pentium 1 pc. That explains some stuff Wink

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09-09-2005 18:37 Homepage of Friscko
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Ok, but I still address, big players in the game are able to work with simple sounding elements and still somehow keep things interesting for a long time. Techno is all about that. DnB is very difficult genre to be in with. It works with such a minimal amount of components: Drums, bass, 2 additional instruments, some effects. In such context, you wont get away with copypasting stuff. You NEED to do SOME kind of changes, or listener will get bored (or walk out of the dance floor). Here is some good reading for you about it:

Repetitiveness

bigups for doing all that in P1 machine, but I am not going to give you any mercy on my reviews because of that. I compare everything to that tune made in million bucks studio with big ass name pro doing their stuff. Because thats where we aim at, and unfortunately thats what lazy labels expect from us.

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09-09-2005 20:42
Friscko Friscko is a male
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Originally posted by GreatFisherCat
You NEED to do SOME kind of changes, or listener will get bored (or walk out of the dance floor). Here is some good reading for you about it:

Repetitiveness

in that thread is also getting complained about the 'big producers' not being very un-repetitive...
And it IS un-repetitive imo..
It switches around 3 different 16-bar structures, each with another basssound or melody, and after the 3.30 the drumpattn suddenly is straight and the whole gets straightened too, in that part it may be repetitive, but thats cus i wanted it to be straight and a lil repetitive

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10-09-2005 21:16 Homepage of Friscko
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