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the 64 bit AMD pisses all over the Intel one.
however you might be right about the compatibility with older software... in order to fully use the processor you will need an operating system which supports it.. like maybe the forthcoming Windows Vista.
you will need a whole lot of RAM too if youre going with that, since the Vista alone will take up 800 Mbytes of RAM
so youre looking at 2 GB minimum
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yeh the "hyperthreading" sucks bull
lets see how the Vista thing wraps out. indeed they did say its got some kinda performance rating system, all a bunch off b/s if you ask me. its friggin Microsoft, always on the lookout to fuck up us cunsumers
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20-03-2006 14:45 |
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well if vista is taking up 800mb that leaves you with about 1.2 gb of ram to play with. it might be worth investing in another gig if you intend on having a system coping with higher end vst fx processors and synths, and you also need to it to be able to cope with newer more demanding software that will come along in the next few years.....
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20-03-2006 16:30 |
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to be honest though 1.2 gb of ram isnt enough if you intend on running multiple instances of things such as reaktor, absynth, zeta and its even worse if your using things such as waves along with a lot of audio tracks. obviously you can always bounce down your stems but its always best to keep as much control as possible over your sounds imo. to be honest jimmy i know you must now be moving up a level from just using reason, and manipulating 24 and 32 bit audio with high sample rates along with third party plug ins can really eat your processor & ram so i would get as much as you can if you intend on getting a good sound. theres no bigger killer of inspiration than having your host crash because the computer cant handle the load. and whats even worse is when youve just saved it before hand and it will no longer open because theres to much strain on the system. anyways thats my two cents worth.......
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i think this thread is useless bullshit
they both have their advantages an disadvantages...
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you didnt say what was the frequency of the other AMD processor. the fact is that any AMD since the K7 generation when compared with an Intel equivalent runs at lower frequencies, costs less, but works faster
the reliabilty issue with the AMD's a thing of the past, thats just something Intel people are still clinging on as it's only in people's heads now.
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20-03-2006 17:48 |
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Originally posted by baz
i think this thread is useless bullshit
they both have their advantages an disadvantages...
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you didnt say what was the frequency of the other AMD processor. the fact is that any AMD since the K7 generation when compared with an Intel equivalent runs at lower frequencies, costs less, but works faster
the reliabilty issue with the AMD's a thing of the past, thats just something Intel people are still clinging on as it's only in people's heads now. |
lol indeed i forgot the cpu of my amd
AMD A64 VENICE 3000 SKT939 FSB1000 512KB
an i woulmdn't even know if it's a real good one but when i bought it they told me it was a top notch cpu (an still i prefer my intel (predjudices never fade for real i guess
) it's not a bad cpu neither but i just don't like too see my cpu raise from the moment i press play in fl
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I think that should do for quite a while
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I would go for an Intel processor. I have 1.8 ghz intel pentium IV in my comp., made in 2003, still working like crazy. I never had probz with heating, stability or whatever (except when windows is fucked up, which is pretty damn much
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Hey, this isnt along the lines of this conversation but is related none the less.
Ive just got cubase and dont know fuck all bout computers, but could anyone let me know if these specs will cut reason running with cubase + multiple vst plug ins? :
- Intel Pentium 4 2.4 GHz, 256 MB DDR RAM, 30 GB hard disk
- 420 Go graphics with 32 MB DDR VRAM
thanks, and if there are any problems what can be done to remedy these? i.e. an external hardrive?
Cheers (im not running nothing else on the computer but these two programs + plug ins), reason is perfectly fine but just learning cubase and definetely up for some editing reason tunes in cubase!
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Originally posted by Digital Cause
Hey, this isnt along the lines of this conversation but is related none the less.
Ive just got cubase and dont know fuck all bout computers, but could anyone let me know if these specs will cut reason running with cubase + multiple vst plug ins? :
- Intel Pentium 4 2.4 GHz, 256 MB DDR RAM, 30 GB hard disk
- 420 Go graphics with 32 MB DDR VRAM
thanks, and if there are any problems what can be done to remedy these? i.e. an external hardrive?
Cheers (im not running nothing else on the computer but these two programs + plug ins), reason is perfectly fine but just learning cubase and definetely up for some editing reason tunes in cubase! |
you're on a serious low RAM-wise, 256 is the minimum for running Win XP alone and since the rewiring Reason through Cubase eats CPU and RAM especially you should consider a massive upgrade to at least 1 GB. graphic card's ram isn't going to help since the CPU can't use it
for the reference: I am running an overcolcked AMD Sempron 2600+, 1GB of DDR 400 Mhz in dual channel mode
Reason 3.04 rewired through Cubase SX 2 and the system hogs wih more than 4 channels actively rewired with a few VST plugins (waves 5, izotope ozone etc.)
IMO Cubase's Rewire is a bit unoptimized. Therefore I use Mackie's Traction 2 which is a lot more sensible to your memory and it has up to 64-bit mixing too (such as Cubase) so there is no sound quality loss.
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