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Surya Surya is a male
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Yeah, look at the dB@1W. I think mostly that starts off around 80dB-90dB for decent monitors, at 1 meter mostly.

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27-01-2006 07:26 Homepage of Surya
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I found this http://emusician.com/images/archive/REFERENCEMONITORS.pdf

it's in PDF sou you'll need Acrobat. er, not exactly newest but it's kinda useful

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Now that's a useful document Bigup must have been a hell of a job compiling that Shocked

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good monitors cost good money and last you longer. don't say bullshit about not having enough money. get a fucking job ya wanker. you cannot pirate active nearfields. you can find good deals though.

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I've managed to up my budget a bit & Ive been looking at second hand Edirol MA series active nearfields. They seem to average at about £50 on ebay - not incredibly loud but spec wise they dont look too bad.

Anyone got them or used them?

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30-01-2006 10:58
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ok you guys keep mentioning amps for passive monitors...
the word "amp" is really generic

are you talking about low frequency speaker?
or something else?

i don't want hella bass... i get that with my sennheiser headphones... i need something that is balanced and will give me a natural sound that will enhance my producing and future mixing. i need a few reference points: crappy speakers, decent ones (monitors), and headphones. I just need the monitors now.

and i'm assuming that active monitor speakers don't require an amp?

i'm completely new to this and i really want to get a decent setup

thanks

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20-06-2006 05:56
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I dont see whats generic about the word amp. Its an amplifier.
If you buy some active monitors then you wouldnt need an external amplifier since the amplification is taken care of within the monitor itself. This has its advantages because it means that the amp will be suited towards the monitor and will not add colouration to the sound. You want to get exactly whats coming out of your soundcard, nothing more or less.
Passive monitors do not have built in amplifiers and rely on an external amp for their power, this has the advantage that you are not restricted to one amp so comparison is much easier. The other advantage is that you can buy high quality external amps far cheeper than active monitors with a similar amp inside. The disadvantage is that passive monitors will be pointless is you dont have an amp which is suited for them. They will sound shit in a bad way.

This is why you need acurate monitors, quite often a typical hi fi will add colouration to the sound to compensate for shit speakers or a crappy amplifier, this is why if you buy really nice speakers and hook them up to a cheepo hifi unit it'll sound really shit. It is important to have an acurate amplifier too. I'd suggest looking at either expensive active monitors, or resonanbly expensive passive monitors and a good quality amplifier. More often than not, the prices will work out about the same.
I opted for passives with external amps since it allows a lot of flexibility. Both amps have speaker set switches which allow you too switch between different pairs of speakers. This makes comparison between diffent setups really easy. I think this is an often overlooked part of monitoring. If your using just one setup,you'll get used to making things sound good on that setup, but there is a lways the chance that it'll sound gash on others. If you have 2 different types of amps and 2 very different speaker setups you have 4 different combinations, all of which sound different.
Ive got a Nad power amp which has a clean and acurate sound, and a Denon hifi amp which is very coloured. I the run these through either my passive moniors which have a nice clean sound, or through a pair of floor standers which produce a load of flabby bass and sound pretty bad IMO.
The point is that a well mixed track will sound good on any setup you play it through. My mixes are no where near this but Im sure they are getting better.
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quote:
Originally posted by TechDiff
I dont see whats generic about the word amp. Its an amplifier.
If you buy some active monitors then you wouldnt need an external amplifier since the amplification is taken care of within the monitor itself. This has its advantages because it means that the amp will be suited towards the monitor and will not add colouration to the sound. You want to get exactly whats coming out of your soundcard, nothing more or less.
Passive monitors do not have built in amplifiers and rely on an external amp for their power, this has the advantage that you are not restricted to one amp so comparison is much easier. The other advantage is that you can buy high quality external amps far cheeper than active monitors with a similar amp inside. The disadvantage is that passive monitors will be pointless is you dont have an amp which is suited for them. They will sound shit in a bad way.


why didn't i know this before??


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My mixes are no where near this but Im sure they are getting better.


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quote:
Originally posted by TechDiff
My mixes are no where near this but Im sure they are getting better.


And sure mastering helps a lot there... Big Grin

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Yeah, for sure. But I cant afford it. I can barely afford CD's to burn tracks onto.
23-06-2006 18:15
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Well, shhh, I have a little secret for you...

You can learn it by yourself enough to sound good enough for a CD Wink

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hey techdiff that really clears some stuff up
i appreciate it

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i couldnt afford studio monitros, so what i did was went and bought some nice headphones.

they still work really nice, and im really glad i bought them. if your gonna buy studio monitors, wait untill you can get some decent ones. i just got mine about 6 months ago after a long time of waiting... it was so worth it Big Grin

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if anyones got the time can i get their opinions on the "Roland DM-1200 2.1ch Speaker System" Cheers

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I have AKG K-66 monitors, and they are awesome!!

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quote:
Originally posted by crushfuck
Im on the lookout for some monitors coz at the moment im producing with hi fi speakers Frown (although they are fairly decent to be fair) but I have one major problem.....money. I literally have fuck all money so my budget doesnt stretch very far.


im in the same boat fella

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