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I've made a new track (tech itch like) exept for the bass.
And thats just the problem , I can't find the right bass on it.
I tried tons of it but none seems to fit , and there just have to be a phat (distorted) bass in it !
Sugestions...?
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28-06-2005 21:40 |
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Greyone
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thanx , i gonna try this things out
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28-06-2005 22:37 |
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28-06-2005 22:41 |
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yeah, agree, very hard it is putting it afterwards, since it doesn't fit in you probbably took some vital frequencies with the other sounds..
there is a work-around tho, but a long and painful one.
scan the frequencies of the track, see which sounds occupy what frequency.
add the bass, notch the frequencies that are occupied, if it souns crap, you have to re-eq everything... that's why the bass is one of the first sounds to be included..
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29-06-2005 09:39 |
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Greyone
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Originally posted by Friscko
You mean reeces? try JX16's detuned techno lead preset and lower one or two octave, add distortion, bass boost and reeverb.
resample, add some compression and extra overdrive |
isn't that for cubase? 
i'm only working with FL
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29-06-2005 10:11 |
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Greyone
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Originally posted by cynik
... that's why the bass is one of the first sounds to be included.. |
yeah, i just read it somewhere in the thread 'where to start' .
Pff ... i'll just mess with some vst's i guess.
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29-06-2005 10:14 |
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29-06-2005 10:18 |
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Greyone
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yea but i first got my 
and now im searching for da bass. 
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29-06-2005 10:35 |
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29-06-2005 10:51 |
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Friscko
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Originally posted by greyone
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Originally posted by Friscko
You mean reeces? try JX16's detuned techno lead preset and lower one or two octave, add distortion, bass boost and reeverb.
resample, add some compression and extra overdrive |
isn't that for cubase?
i'm only working with FL |
nope i did that on FL 3.fucken 56 
I think the JX10 is for free, and almost the same..offcoarse there are some places where everithing is for free
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29-06-2005 11:16 |
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Greyone
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fuck JX16 , jippi jappi jeah for the DX10 (Bang Bass) !!!
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29-06-2005 11:32 |
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JX16 sucks, never mention it again. it's a simple snth good for detuned. there's no sub synth on it, there's not even a waveform patch to change teh sound. it's like a ... a cinhcy chincy little toy piano, that has one sound that you can thicken, or not.
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29-06-2005 15:45 |
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Greyone
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Originally posted by Halph-Price
JX16 sucks, never mention it again. it's a simple snth good for detuned. there's no sub synth on it, there's not even a waveform patch to change teh sound. it's like a ... a cinhcy chincy little toy piano, that has one sound that you can thicken, or not. |
Yeah , that's what i wanna hear !
and fuck DX10 allso , my grandmother can make better bassnoiszes.
mmmh...it brings me on idea's
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29-06-2005 15:48 |
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Greyone
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WOOOOOOOOOAHHHHHH;
I found a giant mistake from me:
when i installed the vst's i never checked the thing : 'refresh'
Now i've got at least 20 more vst's. 
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29-06-2005 16:00 |
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Friscko
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Originally posted by Halph-Price
JX16 sucks, never mention it again. it's a simple snth good for detuned. there's no sub synth on it, there's not even a waveform patch to change teh sound. it's like a ... a cinhcy chincy little toy piano, that has one sound that you can thicken, or not. |
layered with sine wave from 3*osc or phattened up with eq, it's very good for simple reeces and acid (303) basses.
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29-06-2005 16:32 |
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Originally posted by cynik
I know, I know it's fuckin hard! making the kick to BOOM and the bass too WOOFF and at the same time don't conflict each other.. |
how many times!!!!!! ok number one.......try using a compressor with a sidechain..this way when the kick..er kicks.....the bass will dip out for that millisecond.
or you have to decide which you want lower in the mix.......remember compression squashes the dynamic range of a signal!!!! so you can use it along with eq to keep the bass low and tight and also to turn the kick into a more punchy sound.....
lastly and by a million miles the most important is EQ...!!!!!!!
remember eq isnt just for boosting.....its not what is was designed to do..its designed as a filter!!!!!! so for example you might have your sub and kick running.......now create the most severe notch you can on the bass channel at around 125hz.then just drop out that frequency.this is around where the punchy part of your kick sound will be.......its subtle but it will free up the kick a little.....
and dont forget to layer a certain amount of sub (check out waves maxx bass!!!!!) under your kick......
and also theres no reason you cant filter out your sub from about 200hz onwards.....theres no need to have it cluttering up those frequencies.....it will free up your lead sound and snare etc etc .
the sooner you learn to cut more frequencies and give everything its own space in the mix the cleaner and more defined your tunes will be........and you dont have to use so many sounds so it becomes less cluttered and crisp.
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29-06-2005 17:41 |
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Originally posted by MUNKI C
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Originally posted by cynik
I know, I know it's fuckin hard! making the kick to BOOM and the bass too WOOFF and at the same time don't conflict each other.. |
how many times!!!!!! ok number one.......try using a compressor with a sidechain..this way when the kick..er kicks.....the bass will dip out for that millisecond.
or you have to decide which you want lower in the mix.......remember compression squashes the dynamic range of a signal!!!! so you can use it along with eq to keep the bass low and tight and also to turn the kick into a more punchy sound.....
lastly and by a million miles the most important is EQ...!!!!!!!
remember eq isnt just for boosting.....its not what is was designed to do..its designed as a filter!!!!!! so for example you might have your sub and kick running.......now create the most severe notch you can on the bass channel at around 125hz.then just drop out that frequency.this is around where the punchy part of your kick sound will be.......its subtle but it will free up the kick a little.....
and dont forget to layer a certain amount of sub (check out waves maxx bass!!!!!) under your kick......
and also theres no reason you cant filter out your sub from about 200hz onwards.....theres no need to have it cluttering up those frequencies.....it will free up your lead sound and snare etc etc .
the sooner you learn to cut more frequencies and give everything its own space in the mix the cleaner and more defined your tunes will be........and you dont have to use so many sounds so it becomes less cluttered and crisp. |
I have NEVER layered sub over my kick, if you're using the right kicks, and the right EQing, you shouldn't need to ADD sub to your kicks. He's extremely right about the notching though. 125-150Hz is perfect for the punch of your kick, and if you add, like he said, a severe notch in that range, with a high Q factor, you will make a lot of room for your kick, and it'll sound a lot better together.
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