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SaulGilsenan
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Hey guys, pretty simple problem here but I don't know how to fix it.
I'm applying EQ to both my kicks to filter out sounds lower than 80hz, but on the master track it still says that there's sounds coming through.

Here's a screen shot of my problem.



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10-02-2010 13:09
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Do you have reverbs on low or low mid elements?
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First off you HI-passed your kicks, the title says the opposite.

Don't use that kind of aggressive filtering it will cause some weird frequencies to be generated. If you hi-pass your kicks at 80Hz like you do you'll damage them badly, the curve should roll off on the low end, not an aggressive cut.

Use the Fruity Free Filter to hi-pass and don't worry too much about some low end coming through.
Equo is a nice looking tool, but I stopped using it as I find it unreliable for such tasks.
The only good thing about equo is the analyze button that helps you pseudo-compress the sound by lowering the frequencies that are too loud and lifting the ones that are too silent, but that function isn't a miracle tool that should be applied on everything, just handy in some cases.

When I started to compose I used to cut/boost very extreme on my sounds whereas now days I only apply slight boosts or little notches in EQing most of the time. I mixdown my drums separately and hi-pass them with FL MAXIMUS at that stage. Then I reload them as a break (or several breaks) and use a hi-pass on the master at around 30Hz to be able to keep the sub bass.

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10-02-2010 13:54 Homepage of BattleDrone
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Ah nice thanks man, I meant lowcutting btw.
So what you're saying is I should like, mixdown everything seperately then just compile it all together at the end?
Seems sensible to me, thanks alot Smile

Also, what does the Q mean in fruity free filter?

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You use the Q to change the roll-off of the curve (from XHz down to 0Hz), higher Q level means the curve goes down slowly. Low Q level means that it gets closer to the way you cut of the lower end in EQUO (on the images you posted).

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10-02-2010 17:23 Homepage of BattleDrone
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Thanks a lot man! Big Grin Drummer

EDIT: When I higher the Q it clips really bad. :s What's the problem there?

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quote:
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Thanks a lot man! Big Grin Drummer

EDIT: When I higher the Q it clips really bad. :s What's the problem there?


I dunno about Q in FL but on the mclass eq in reason ...
the Q is width of frequency you are cutting/boosting.

A lower Q = wider area whereas higher Q = smaller (tight) area.

So in effect a tighter Q is only boosting/cutting a very small amount of frequencies which can cause clipping/distortion if you apply it too generously.

General rule would be tighter Q for cutting and a wider Q for boosting but should never boost too much; little bits go a long way.

Play with levels on mixer too as they can make a big difference to how your track sounds Smile

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The Q knob controls the resonance of the low pass filter, so the more you turn it the louder the frequencies around the cut off point get. This is more than likely why it's clipping, try looking at the sound through a spectrum analyser to see if this is the case.
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quote:
Originally posted by selig
The Q knob controls the resonance of the low pass filter, so the more you turn it the louder the frequencies around the cut off point get. This is more than likely why it's clipping



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The Q knob controls the resonance of the low pass filter, so the more you turn it the louder the frequencies around the cut off point get. This is more than likely why it's clipping



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Well I wouldn't have known, don't use FL Wink

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quote:
Originally posted by Sentinel
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Originally posted by Ghost
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Originally posted by selig
The Q knob controls the resonance of the low pass filter, so the more you turn it the louder the frequencies around the cut off point get. This is more than likely why it's clipping



quoted for truth


Well I wouldn't have known, don't use FL Wink


That's what I've been trying to prove and tell everyone these 8 years - FL is utter crap. Why can't you understand, people?! I mean, I've been working 8 years on it to prove this. You gotta believe me.

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quote:
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Originally posted by Sentinel
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Originally posted by Ghost
quote:
Originally posted by selig
The Q knob controls the resonance of the low pass filter, so the more you turn it the louder the frequencies around the cut off point get. This is more than likely why it's clipping



quoted for truth


Well I wouldn't have known, don't use FL Wink


That's what I've been trying to prove and tell everyone these 8 years - FL is utter crap. Why can't you understand, people?! I mean, I've been working 8 years on it to prove this. You gotta believe me.


Lmao. I dunno about that either MD Shakeshark
I don't really like DAW's that have loads of windows open everywhere ...
Everything you load up, effect you add etc has a new window & I just get lost in all the windaes so I prefer to use Reason; one rack; one sequencer & no pissing about Smile

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Lmao. I dunno about that either MD Shakeshark


Everyone knows it's impossible to make a decent tune with frooty. For proof just listen to some of my tracks; it's not my fault they're all crap, it's the daw I tell you!
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quote:
Originally posted by selig
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Originally posted by Sentinel
Lmao. I dunno about that either MD Shakeshark


Everyone knows it's impossible to make a decent tune with frooty. For proof just listen to some of my tracks; it's not my fault they're all crap, it's the daw I tell you!


Tomos seems to do alright with FL ...
shame about the tight fisted buggers that created it though & their shitty sample copyrights.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sentinel
quote:
Originally posted by Ghost
quote:
Originally posted by selig
The Q knob controls the resonance of the low pass filter, so the more you turn it the louder the frequencies around the cut off point get. This is more than likely why it's clipping



quoted for truth


Well I wouldn't have known, don't use FL Wink


it's not just a FL thing. It's how the q on all low and high shelves/filters of eqs work. The same way the resonance of a normal filter does.

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quote:
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Originally posted by Sentinel
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Originally posted by Ghost
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Originally posted by selig
The Q knob controls the resonance of the low pass filter, so the more you turn it the louder the frequencies around the cut off point get. This is more than likely why it's clipping



quoted for truth


Well I wouldn't have known, don't use FL Wink


it's not just a FL thing. It's how the q on all low and high shelves/filters of eqs work. The same way the resonance of a normal filter does.


Ok dokie Jimmy. Guess we do still learn something new everyday Tongue
I just knew it made things wider/shorter|lower/higher etc.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sentinel
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Originally posted by selig
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Originally posted by Sentinel
Lmao. I dunno about that either MD Shakeshark


Everyone knows it's impossible to make a decent tune with frooty. For proof just listen to some of my tracks; it's not my fault they're all crap, it's the daw I tell you!


Tomos seems to do alright with FL ...
shame about the tight fisted buggers that created it though & their shitty sample copyrights.


I was being sarcastic but forgot to add a smiley.

FL is the same as any other daw really, you get out what you put in, but saying that I don't use it much any more. I just seem to answer a lot of questions about it.
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quote:
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Originally posted by Sentinel
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Originally posted by selig
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Originally posted by Sentinel
Lmao. I dunno about that either MD Shakeshark


Everyone knows it's impossible to make a decent tune with frooty. For proof just listen to some of my tracks; it's not my fault they're all crap, it's the daw I tell you!


Tomos seems to do alright with FL ...
shame about the tight fisted buggers that created it though & their shitty sample copyrights.


I was being sarcastic but forgot to add a smiley.

FL is the same as any other daw really, you get out what you put in, but saying that I don't use it much any more. I just seem to answer a lot of questions about it.


HaHa I only ever used it once tbh & I'm trying to answer random questions too Tongue

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quote:
Originally posted by selig
The Q knob controls the resonance of the low pass filter, so the more you turn it the louder the frequencies around the cut off point get. This is more than likely why it's clipping, try looking at the sound through a spectrum analyser to see if this is the case.


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You use the Q to change the roll-off of the curve (from XHz down to 0Hz), higher Q level means the curve goes down slowly. Low Q level means that it gets closer to the way you cut of the lower end in EQUO (on the images you posted).


I explained it totally opposite My Mistake
SORRY

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