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Just wondering how you lot go around sidechaining in Reason. I know how to do it using the compressor, but was wondering if you had any other ways around it.

The reason why I'm asking is because something I have noticed with sidechaining the usual way in reason, is that the sound ducks completely, in other words, not just knocks out a set amount of frequencies.

I have made a new Combi today that uses the EQ to drop when a kick or snare hits in. I was hoping of making one that uses the Vocoder modulation levels to some how modulate the EQ frequencies, but I can't find a way of automatically adjusting the EQ to the Vocoder, or more use the modulation level to output in anyway... Huh

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01-06-2009 06:32
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I use side-chaining all the time in reason, try adjusting the threshold and the ratio.
The lower the threshold the more ducking there is, the higher the ratio the more ducking there is. Just try increasing the threshold and lowering the ratio.

You mean only a certain frequency? Load a 8band parallel compressor patch from the Mclass patches then put the side-chain input into the desired band's compressor. Is this what you want?

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quote:
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You mean only a certain frequency? Load a 8band parallel compressor patch from the Mclass patches then put the side-chain input into the desired band's compressor. Is this what you want?


Pretty much what I mean. Just wondering if there are any other ways of doing this. I don't appear to have the 8 bar compressor patch. You use reason 4? I'm using 3

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01-06-2009 08:00
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separate the wanted frequncy using audio splitter and heavy eqing, then use that source for the sidechained compressor. dunno of another way, but you dont need since it works quite well

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Make a combinator
Inside that make a line mixer,
2 stereo imagers and
1 mclass compressor (bypass it to start with)

Send what ever signal you want to compress a specific frequency of into the combi.

Go from that to the first stereo imager
then route its normal output to the first channel
then route its speparate output into the second imager (make sure the switch on the back is in the 'Hi Band' position.

Then go from the second imagers audio output into the compressor, then from the compressor into the second channel on the mixer.

From the second imagers separate output go into the third channel on the mixer.
Again make sure the switch is in the 'hi band' position.

Now you will have the inout signal spilt into 3 on the line mixer.

Essentially what has been done here is that the middle band will become the band that you want to compress and this frequencies band width can be adjuected by the two stereo imagers. So you can make it as tight or wide as you like and at any frequency that imagers permit.

You can check the band by soloing the second channel on the mixer.

Then wire the sidechain signal into the compressor. and set the compressor to taste.


Job done Bigup

Now save the combinator so all you have to do to get it again is a couple of clicks. Big Grin

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk79bfA0Uo4

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quote:
Originally posted by marc_ej
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk79bfA0Uo4


Yeah thats sidechain to the whole signal

what i think Bruce was looking for is side-chaining of a specific frequency band Wink

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ok jimmy,
just trying to be helpful m8... Tongue Big Grin

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also a simple (but maybe slightly more long winded) method is to simply automate the volume of what u want ducking Tongue

it can be handy if ur not getting the result u want with the sidechain, say if u want ur sub to lower ever so slightly when ur kick hits just do a lil fade on the vol

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also a simple (but maybe slightly more long winded) method is to simply automate the volume of what u want ducking Tongue

it can be handy if ur not getting the result u want with the sidechain, say if u want ur sub to lower ever so slightly when ur kick hits just do a lil fade on the vol

...right i just seen u want to sidechain a specific frequency band, u could always automate ur eq as well Tongue

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Thanks everyone, will give your method a go Jimmi.

I know what you mean Ketz, but I want to just knock out the frequency on a bass which is being filtered. I have managed to build a Combi, that ducks the EQ on the kick and snare frequencies through the bass. It does work, but isn't fantastic, probably more to do with the maximiser after though Huh . You can hear the difference when you switch the combi on/off though.

I was more wondering if there was a way of using or aquiring the signal that you can see in the Vocoder display and linking it up to another vocoder eq and create an automatic ducking effect on the frequecies.

Anyway peeps, thanks a lot. Happy

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pretty cool idea Jimmi

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can you bastards all stop spelling my name 'jimmi'


its JIMMY with a 'Y' On the end!! lol

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quote:
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can you bastards all stop spelling my name 'jimmi'


its JIMMY with a 'Y' On the end!! lol

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Calm down James Wink Big Grin

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