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Thread: How do YOU get your ideas for a track?
PLaGuE CeLL

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24-10-2009 21:01 Forum: Production questions & answers


I find that I come up with my melodies just from randomly messing around on the keyboard til I accidentally come up with a nice little lick i can refine into a melody Smile

However, I do find that I need to be in a certain mood to randomly hammer the keyboard in a way that is likely to turn up something Tongue

Once the melody is down i find i just get 'in the zone' and start churning out all sorts of elements to the track. Quite often when i listen back to tunes I've made a while ago i have no idea how i came up with some of the ideas in them!

I certainly feel that unless you are running off the enthusiasm of just starting out making music, it can be hard to put any real emotion or power into a track unless you are feeling a heightened emotion... being bored ain't such a good time to make music but if you're happy or sad then you may turn out deep stuff Big Grin
Thread: Bit And Sample Rate
PLaGuE CeLL

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RE: Bit And Sample Rate 30-09-2009 17:36 Forum: Producers private board


I'm not sure if I've got this exactly right, but here goes:

With bit depth you get more accuracy with the different amplitude steps that are addressed. with 16 bit you get 65535 different volume steps, with 32 you get 16777215 (thats the bit I'm not sure I got correct)
With lower bitrates they tend to pack more detail into the louder amplitudes, so you may quiet sounds or the ends of reverb tails starting to decrease in quality when it reaches the 'least significant bits'

As for sample rate, I really don't feel that anything except a recording studio needs anything over 96khz in standard usage. For example, 44.1khz sampling rate can preserve up to a 22.5khz tone, though the frequencies nearing 22.5k begin to become square waves.
48k may be a good idea for a bedroom producer, and 96k if you can afford the space.
For people who do a lot of audio manipulation however, a 192khz sampling may be beneficial, as a 44.1khz sample slowed down sounds a bit 'crunchy' whereas 192k should sound a bit smoother and more like you may expect from a slowed down tape

I would suggest probably using at least 48k sampling rate, and mixing down the tracks at 24bit to preserve low amplitude detail. once you get to mastering etc then you will probably have to convert to 16bit but i guess it's probably best to keep the quality as high as you can until you have no option but to go for less (44.1k, 16bit mp3 at 128kbps will undo all your good work Tongue )
Thread: classic strings
PLaGuE CeLL

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02-09-2009 01:41 Forum: Production questions & answers


Edirol Orchestra isn't overly realistic, but if the orchestral part of a track is not the main focus then they do have some quite nice instruments Smile the harps and some of the strings are the best bits IMO, and I'm sure the drums may come in useful very occasionally Smile
Thread: classic strings
PLaGuE CeLL

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01-09-2009 14:11 Forum: Production questions & answers


If you're insanely rich and want good strings check out Vienna, it's the ultimate Orchestra plugin, its summat like 6 grand
Thread: The perfect Kick?
PLaGuE CeLL

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27-08-2009 04:20 Forum: Production questions & answers


If you're still stuck I'm sure someone else can help, I usually work with old school breaks making Jungle style stuff so I don't often make drum n bass style drums :p
Thread: The perfect Kick?
PLaGuE CeLL

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27-08-2009 04:17 Forum: Production questions & answers


Can't say I'm familiar with CV, though some general pointers would be to layer up different kick samples that each contain elements that you want, ie:

-1 with low end thump
-1 with more spank at the start to make it sound less flabby
-1....maybe acoustic kick for a roomy feel, or to give it a little bit of grime from the rattlling drum skin.

you can use more or fewer samples depending on how many you need to get your sound.

Take out anything from the samples that you don't need.
For example:
- Take most or all of the bass end out of all the samples that arent the one that has the nice low thump
- Chop off everything but the spank at the beginning of your punchier kick so you don't have much of a tail, yet leave the 'KA!' at the beginning

Some of the samples can be compressed to bring out their required characteristics, for example, an acoustic kick could have all the bass filtered out, and then be compressed to bring the rattling decay up to a nice level you can play around with.

Quite a lot of DnB artists use Roland TR-909 or 808 style kicks as a basis for a kick sound, they pack plenty of low end, but often need plenty of work to get them sounding unique.

You could also bounce everything down to one sample and then further compress or filter or EQ to gel it all together Smile

Once you add a bassline into the mix you might lose the bass in the kick, or have the attack muddied up. You could sidechain compress to duck the bass whenever the kick hits (not usually recommended), put a notch in the EQ of the bassline to give the kick some room, or re EQ the kick to bring it back to life.

Try putting a high pass filter on the kick and play it alongside the bass, then shift the frequency of the filter until you have a nice compromise.

A sub bassline will usually have content much lower in the bass end than the kick does Smile
Thread: £430 (£700) to spend, what are some good monitors?
PLaGuE CeLL

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22-07-2009 18:59 Forum: Hardware


Aye but I'd rather spend a little more than 4 quid on cable Tongue
Thread: £430 (£700) to spend, what are some good monitors?
PLaGuE CeLL

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20-07-2009 20:48 Forum: Hardware


Sucks though, its restricting how easy it is for me to get cables, the A7s only have xlr and phono, my soundcard has jack and phono, but the phono is unbalanced so I'm having trouble finding balanced XLR to Jack >.<

Yeah I hear lots about the NS10s... I don't think I could mix flat on them without a lot of practice though... i intend to listen to music on the A7s as well so an ns10 frew response wouldn't be up to the job for me :p
Thread: £430 (£700) to spend, what are some good monitors?
PLaGuE CeLL

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19-07-2009 22:31 Forum: Hardware


I bought them before reading the last few posts... I mean, I intend to keep them until they simply wear out after however many years Smile
Should be here tomorrow Big Grin
Thread: £430 (£700) to spend, what are some good monitors?
PLaGuE CeLL

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15-07-2009 18:29 Forum: Hardware


quote:
Originally posted by Ghost
Don't go for any M-audio monitors and don't get any with a sub unless you have well treated room.

I have also been looking at the adam a7's.

If only i had some money Crying


http://www.soundtools.co.uk/Templates_T1/Adam/A7_Sale.htm

£549 for a pair!!! serious bargain Big Grin
Thread: Speaker Cables?
PLaGuE CeLL

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14-07-2009 23:29 Forum: Hardware


@ghost aye, i wasn't intending on going cheap on cables :p its proving hard to find high quality ones >.< and yeah, 10ft should be fine

I just don't really know of any good brands to look for for cables! I don't want to buy generic ones because they're likely not made well Frown
Thread: Speaker Cables?
PLaGuE CeLL

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Speaker Cables? 14-07-2009 20:26 Forum: Hardware


The monitors I want to get (Adam A7s) only have XLR and phono inputs, bascially I will need male XLR to 1/4in jack speaker cables, but what I want to know is...

Does gold plating of the connectors really matter?

They need to be mono cables if i want a balanced signal right? I'm fairly sure thats the case

Will an instrument cable be up to the job? I know big speakers need thicker cable, but these are only 100w each so will for example a guitar lead be suitable?

cheers Smile
Thread: buying new gear and need some opinions
PLaGuE CeLL

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14-07-2009 19:37 Forum: Hardware


I think you could maybe do something with the speakers... with the sort of money you have to spend you may be able to afford some acoustic treatment (or improvise your own?)
I've been shopping for monitors myself, I decided on different ones to the HS50Ms, because although I hear they are good, the bass drops off like a stone at around 50hz, you might need to get a subwoofer to get the sub bass response needed for dnb and hip hop kinda stuff.

I personally couldnt afford the HS50Ms and their accompanying £410 subwoofer, so I think most likely I will be getting Adam A7s, which are fairly good in the bass end to begin with, and then add a subwoofer at some point in the future.
My rooms gonna be full of cushions and stuff to make improvised acoustic treatment, I just hope sub bass doesn't make my mattress ring too much :p
Thread: £430 (£700) to spend, what are some good monitors?
PLaGuE CeLL

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14-07-2009 19:27 Forum: Hardware


quote:
Originally posted by Halph-Price

How much do mastering speakers cost, and where would you buy a pair from?


http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/79590 <--Yo.
Thread: Can you tell me what you think of my made drum and bass?
PLaGuE CeLL

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13-07-2009 21:17 Forum: Fruity Loops - FL Studio


I'm gonna mix it up a bit here :p I quite liked that! The 2nd and 4th tracks didn't grab me so much, but I quite like the grooves on the 1st and 3rd ones Smile

I'm a sucker for the Amen, and I like what you're doing with it.
With regards to the 3rd track, I like the slowness of it, I often get told my jungly stuff is too slow, but I find it makes each hit slap you in the face because its not too fast to start to roll together Smile

Perhaps mix it up a little with different drum samples though, the amen is cool but intros and breakdowns with other loops might give it a bit of diversity Smile
Thread: £430 (£700) to spend, what are some good monitors?
PLaGuE CeLL

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13-07-2009 21:09 Forum: Hardware


Adam A7s have caught my eye, may end up with them, at some point may salvage some hi fi speakers and also use my computer speakers so I can A/B/C between them all!

Am also after some headphones at some point so I can see what the really low end is doing and also more accurately deal with stereo and what it sounds like without room acoustics Smile Anyway, cheers for the info Halph, mostly buying more expensive ones so I don't outgrow them too soon with regards to how precise I need things to be!

I'll be spending a lot of time in my University studio next year too, they got the high end Quested stuff in there so would like to be able to come home in the evening without too much of a noticeable drop in quality Tongue
Thread: £430 (£700) to spend, what are some good monitors?
PLaGuE CeLL

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12-07-2009 01:38 Forum: Hardware


@Halph
Nah I'm intending on taking care of my ears Tongue mostly I want them because the bass response is better and these particular ones don't appear to have any big problems judging from the reviews Smile I'm not one of these people who thinks louder=better by any means, I'm mostly looking for accuracy, and given the kinda stuff I do, a good representation of bass is important to me.

8inch woofers are probably to big for my room, so the 6.7in of the Mackie monitors is perhaps a good compromise while still retaining some bass end?

Of course, without a sound-treated room I will have some problems, I intend to do all sorts of tweaking to get them flat as i can (monitors need to burn in as well as headphones I hear?) but like i say, a nice bass response will give me a better idea of how to master a track for a big sound system

I mean, you obviously seem to know your stuff, you give plenty of advice on here so if you have any advice regarding what I should be looking for I'm all ears Bigup
Thread: £430 (£700) to spend, what are some good monitors?
PLaGuE CeLL

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11-07-2009 17:15 Forum: Hardware


Cheers for the tips guys Tongue

Ive decided to up my budget (cashing in my Bonds) and am looking more in the £700 bracket now, so far i like the look of the Mackie HR624s: http://www.thomann.de/gb/mackie_hr624_mk2.htm

Anyone got any suggestions in this price range?
Thread: £430 (£700) to spend, what are some good monitors?
PLaGuE CeLL

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RE: £430 to spend, what are some good monitors? 10-07-2009 21:09 Forum: Hardware


That's encouraging to hear, I've been looking at the rokit 6s and the yamaha 5s but i can't decide >.<

The Yamahas seem better except for the fact the bass drops off like a stone at 50hz :\
I have a feeling I might end up going for the rokits, the bass seems a little better, they're ugly as hell but if i get the white ones i can customise the look i guess Tongue
Thread: £430 (£700) to spend, what are some good monitors?
PLaGuE CeLL

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£430 (£700) to spend, what are some good monitors? 10-07-2009 18:05 Forum: Hardware


I'm buying a ton of gear at the moment, and have about £430 left over for some active nearfield monitors...
I'd like to have a bass response that goes down pretty low so will most likely need to consider a subwoofer, unless there are some standard monitors that already have good bass response Tongue

At the moment I've been looking at the M-Audio BX5a deluxe, coupled with the M-Audio SBX subwoofer, but for both sets I've seen mixed reviews and figured I'd ask here to see if anyone has any recommendations Smile

So, anyone got any ideas?

cheers Drummer
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