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Posted by wicked_wayz on 09-03-2006 at21:16:

  lead vs sub

oi there, been a while, just been lurking all along Tongue

problem that happens a lot to me, and now more in particular...

suppose you have a cool lead, with a nice melody etc...

but your notes go from eg F4 to F5. your lead has a nice sub, but only when playing f4 you hear it, all other notes are a bit to high pitched, hence less or no sub frequencies....

what do you??

- copy the notes one scale down and lp filter them, creating a similar sub b-line which fits with the main lead?
- repeat the lowest note, giving a continuous sub without melody?
- keep it as is, just one long boomy note, and layer some very subby kick roll underneath the end bar (option i chose now, but not that proud of)

anyway, any info is welcom Bigup



Posted by @1$-) on 09-03-2006 at21:27:

 

if dropping the sub down an octave makes it to deep and up an octave makes it sound shite then try messing with the octave of the lead instead. then again re doing the b line would just be easier. choice of soundcan make a difference, or maybe layer in another lead or stretched/distorted 808 perhaps.....aaaar the joys of production..



Posted by Tenbucc2 on 09-03-2006 at22:42:

 

why not make a new sub to chime in on the missing notes? might give a good feel



Posted by Surora23 on 10-03-2006 at06:09:

  RE: lead vs sub

quote:
Originally posted by wicked_wayz
oi there, been a while, just been lurking all along Tongue

problem that happens a lot to me, and now more in particular...

suppose you have a cool lead, with a nice melody etc...

but your notes go from eg F4 to F5. your lead has a nice sub, but only when playing f4 you hear it, all other notes are a bit to high pitched, hence less or no sub frequencies....

what do you??

- copy the notes one scale down and lp filter them, creating a similar sub b-line which fits with the main lead?
- repeat the lowest note, giving a continuous sub without melody?
- keep it as is, just one long boomy note, and layer some very subby kick roll underneath the end bar (option i chose now, but not that proud of)

anyway, any info is welcom Bigup


a great way to match melody perfectly with that kind of thing is (if and only if youre using a vsti) copy your vsti, and with whatever lead it is youre using, turn all the osc to sines and make it so its a plain sine... that way you have the same tuning and everything...

then, to make it nice and deep...drop it an octave or 2 down on all osc...

and voila...if youre using a sample...sometimes it gets tricky...but for a vsti...simple as that



Posted by Surya on 10-03-2006 at07:53:

 

You could add a sub to the whole thing and then use a multiband limiter to limit the level of the sub where needed...

Or add a sub but don't play the notes where the lead gives sub

Or HP the lead and add a sub.



Posted by cynik on 10-03-2006 at09:44:

 

quote:
Originally posted by Surya
Or HP the lead and add a sub.


a LOT of tracks I hear have this. a quick fix really but does it's job perfectly


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