finding the key

i kno a lot of u guys dnt sample but if u hav a sample wats the best way to go about finding wat keys its in? thnx

-a default piano patch
-midi keyboard (this is a must)
-loop points
-pen and paper
-lot of patience and time, especially if you can't recognize notes by ear and u have to go through all 12 notes

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Originally posted by KILLER_FAN -a default piano patch -midi keyboard (this is a must) -loop points -pen and paper -lot of patience and time, especially if you can't recognize notes by ear and u have to go through all 12 notes

Or, any patch.
Your computer keyboard set as a "piano"/keyboard.
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Your memory
Some patience or maybe even good luck.

Then just start experimenting

I've found image-line's wave candy (in spectrum mode with the scale turned up full) to be very useful why trying to figure out what chords/notes are being played in songs before.

But, having said that, there really is no substitute for learning to use your ears.

Image line Edison, click regions then click detect pitch regions.

If you have logic go tat the pitch correction effect and it should show up the note. ALso i believe melodyne/autotune can also do this.

mixed in key, its a dj tool, but i run all my samples through it, gives you the key of individual samples. and if you put your whole sample library in there you can search for samples by key! very cool tool.

http://www.mixedinkey.com/Screenshots.aspx

1. llet the sample loop in your sequencer

2. iterate though the (chromatic) scale on your keyboard(a piano or something), mixed with the loop

3. 9/10 you'll find a match(es)

4. if not:
Set another scale OR tune the chromatic scale a bit (==cheating?? )
goto step 2




this is more fun than relying on other programs and gives you a wider range in solutions.

i find the easiest way is to load the sample into your sequencer, then load a simple device into one of the tracks and play an a minor (all white notes) scale, then whilst scaling the keyboard transpose the device up and down till you hear it lock, if you have no look with minor scale, try c major (repeating the process of pitching the sound, then carry on transposing all the devices to a minor/c major that you use after.

works well and helps keep things flowing whilst you work

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Originally posted by demure i find the easiest way is to load the sample into your sequencer, then load a simple device into one of the tracks and play an a minor (all white notes) scale, then whilst scaling the keyboard transpose the device up and down till you hear it lock, if you have no look with minor scale, try c major (repeating the process of pitching the sound, then carry on transposing all the devices to a minor/c major that you use after. works well and helps keep things flowing whilst you work

Last time when I was looking for the key it was in the flower pot next to the door.
Under the doormat is a popular place too.

your address please

cheers guys

a lot of interesting techniques to try out. i dnt have a midi keyboard so that might make things difficult but ill try anyway.

Mixed In Key looks good. does it actually work? is it that simple?!

b

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Originally posted by benji b cheers guys a lot of interesting techniques to try out. i dnt have a midi keyboard so that might make things difficult but ill try anyway. Mixed In Key looks good. does it actually work? is it that simple?! b

I don't have a midi keyboard either, just use your regular one instead, it works jus the same. (not kidding you).