Proper EQing and compression for liquid DnB drums?

I'm trying to get this particular drum sound, and it seems exclusive to DnB, particularly of the liquid variety.

For example the drums Pendulum seems to stick to, especially on the new Immersion album. Also Netsky does it too.

I usually use one snare and compress it, but I'm assuming for DnB it's best to not compress and instead layer a few different frequencies of snares instead.

Also tell me stuff like should the overall emphasis on snare EQing be around the 200-300 mark or...?



Also what about the hihats? How do I make that smooth yet fast/active hihat pattern?

This all seems so simple because I've been producing for over a year but I find it hard to get that professional sound. Maybe it's because I don't have my tracks professionally mastered, but should that matter?

It's mostly the drums I'm interested in when self-mixing/mastering.

this subject has been over discussed here on production q&a. you might wanna take a look at the sticky thread. there is a bunch of good info you can use. god sure helped me.
so on with the snare question: as you mentioned you should layer more samples instead of one. you can layer as many one shots as you like but limit yourself to about 3 or 4 so you won't end up with a big noisy boom.
in principle you need a snare to peak at around 150-200hz. this will be the big snap that will punch through the elements of the track. basically you got n possibilities to process the snare with every effect your daw has. the rest of the snares should have more top to add some presence. again process here is limitless.
use a freq analyser to see where the base snare hits at. might not be 200 hz all the time. if you don't have one you can use the eq to sweep the frequencies and find the spot you like.
compress? to taste. usually you should add a compressor to shape the base snare and add some punch after eqin. also you could add a final compressor to the whole snare group to get them tight and compact.
then for a more natural feeling add a break or 2. rearrange them, eq and make them gel.
add some hihats and shuffle them to get a runny pattern. discussed here also.
this is all i would have to say. again listen and experiment. try to replicate what you hear and go nuts. tweak, process, layer do whatever the hack you want. you are doin this all alone, not for a big audience or a youtube tutorial so trial and error should be your friend.
mastering has nothing to do with emphasizing the drums. mastering is the last process in the chain, applied to the mixdown so bad mixdown->useless mastering.
guys like pendulum or netsky don't have a special trick. they just know how things work from experience.
good luck. make some beats, get a tune going on, post it here and enchant our ears.
peace
kf

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Originally posted by daneford For example the drums Pendulum seems to stick to, especially on the new Immersion album. Also Netsky does it too.

Post some Youtube clips so we know what you mean.