what do you call the break where the snare...

okay, this has been bugging me for a while.

Ya know the classic (non-amen) dnb drum pattern: kick on one, snare on two, kick on "3-and", snare on four, and b/t the 2 and the 3-and is where all the ghost snare stuff goes down...

but then there's the amen prevalent in most jungle (think anything like breakage's staggered dub or whatever)

anyways, the amen obviously has a slightly different kick/snare pattern.

So my question is:

Is there / does anybody know the name of a break that uses the amen pattern, but isn't an amen? So, same pattern, but w/out the classic amen ride & crash cymbals?

this is random, i know, but just curious if there's actually a name for breaks that use that pattern.

I'm familiar w/ some of the old-skool breaks (appache...), but not sure if there's names for some of the new-skool stuff.

Just curious really...

Well it's easy enough to make yourself with one shots

code: 1: 2: 3: kick: x----x-- snare: --x---x- hihat: xxxxxxxx

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Originally posted by thechronic Well it's easy enough to make yourself with one shots code: 1: 2: 3: kick: x----x-- snare: --x---x- hihat: xxxxxxxx

oh yea, i know... i can make those all day

but i was just wondering if there's a name for breaks that don't follow that pattern, but rather the "amen pattern" i guess, for lack of a better term

not just the break but pattern in its self is called an amen break imo

What would that be, an amen pattern?
The original amen is 4 bars long and all bars have a different pattern.

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Originally posted by BattleDrone What would that be, an amen pattern? The original amen is 4 bars long and all bars have a different pattern.

yea, see, to me that's the "classic dnb" pattern. but in the "amen" that i'm referring to the second snare always comes early.

So the kick is on the one snare on the two then the next snare comes on the "3-and"

that would be 1 measure. the next measure has kicks on "one" and on "one-and" snares are again on two and "3-and"

When you remove all the cymbals, ghost snares, etc. that's the basic kick/snare pattern behind most of the amen samples i hear...

guess i was just wondering if it goes by a diff name if it doesn't have that classic amen cymbal work to it.

O, that...
check my breakbuilding tutorial, I refer to it as "the steppy pattern". The tutorial is for FL studio users, but even if you use something else I think it might be useful for you.

Normally all snares in a track hit on the same spot, it's the continuous element in a track, the kick plays on different timings. In the steppy pattern the kick is steady and the snare moves.

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Originally posted by BattleDrone O, that... check my breakbuilding tutorial, I refer to it as "the steppy pattern". The tutorial is for FL studio users, but even if you use something else I think it might be useful for you. Normally all snares in a track hit on the same spot, it's the continuous element in a track, the kick plays on different timings. In the steppy pattern the kick is steady and the snare moves.

Yea... "Steppy Pattern" you should trademark that or something

firefight break?

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Originally posted by denizen firefight break?

It's not about the name of a break, it's about the placing of kicks and snares.

like this?

K:x - - x - - x -
H:- x - - x - - -
S:- - x - - x - x

k= kick
h= hat
s= snare

kick K KK Kk - K kk
snare S S - S S SSS
ghost snare gs - gs - gs - gs
Crash C - C C - C
- R - R- R-R

skullstep win

some alignment would do just fine.