Need help on movement.

I notice some dnb move fast movement. I kinda figured out that the drums, hats, clicks can make it move, but I failed to make it happen. I improved a little but it just isnt banging. I am also trying to figure out what instrument or clicks this guy is using, it doesnt even sound like drums but it keeps it moving.
Can the dark ambient sound play a role in it too?

I trying to make my track move as fast as these two going 175bpm, but my song just sounds slow and lack energy. I tried layering, changing dynamics of hats. Delete cluttered sounds and spents hours just messing with drum loop. I use renoise for making dnb but I know there's a way to make this happen

Here's some examples, these songs move forward nicely.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt91mM326D0

http://www.youtube.com/user/qazzy#p/f/5/M0LZO6UC3T0

could you post some example of your break?
Then I could tell you what's missing.
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Okay, how do I post it.
nevermind, I don't like newgrounds but I have a account there
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/303404

Here is the loop

You might have tried this, but I'll tell you anyway...
If you firstly make a generic drum n' bass beat, and have a hi-hat for every 2 16ths (1/16, 3/16 etcetera).
Then, load up the same hi-hat in your drum machine, pitch it up and lower the volume, and put it inbetween the first hi-hats you placed (so the new ones go on 2/16, 4/16 and so on). It's simple, but I may have explained it badly, haha

Your bassline/melody will also influence your perception of the tempo, try making a quick bassline - also have a go at speeding the bassline/melody up when you reach the main part of your song, and slowing it down for your breakdown... pacing will make your song sound ace

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Originally posted by Ciaran You might have tried this, but I'll tell you anyway... If you firstly make a generic drum n' bass beat, and have a hi-hat for every 2 16ths (1/16, 3/16 etcetera). Then, load up the same hi-hat in your drum machine, pitch it up and lower the volume, and put it inbetween the first hi-hats you placed (so the new ones go on 2/16, 4/16 and so on). It's simple, but I may have explained it badly, haha

Yes, this creates shuffly, full hihat breaks. Try it.

what seems to help with me is put hi hats that hit every 2 steps
so like this
x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x
( - is a non used step) humanize the hihats, you can layer these too and really helps the song sound faster.